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Ken, I would strongly suggest taking a look at the Jeep Renegade CRD. It comes with a 2.8 liter diesel which will get your outstanding mileage and from what I hear, the Renegade has a decent reliability reputation. They are not huge land yachts but are compact as well as 4 door and easily accomdate 4 to 5. If I can get 24 to 26 mpg with my Dodge Cummins, I would think you would get at least 30 mpg and more like 40.
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Ken, my CRS has confused my CRD's!  ! Maybe you have read better info. than I have. I lot of folks over on TDR are drooling over them. I am disappointed in that they do not come with a manual transmission option. I was not aware that the their mileage was so poor. I find it tough to see how a diesel half the size of my Cummins pushing less than half the weight could get anywhere near the mileage my Cummins gets. The Volkswagen TDI's I hear are getting between 40 to 50 mpg if you go really easy on them. I have been watching and waiting to get more buyer review info. on the LIBERTY (got it this time ;O) CRD to see how they hold up for the long term. I still think they would be a good option unless they are just a total lemon. The engine I heard although being Italian built is supposed to be a subsidiary of Detroit Diesel. When our Ford Taurus craps out; I will be replacing it with a diesel of some kind.
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Ken, I would take those CRD reviews with a grain of salt. Many of those reviews were based on driving at 70 to 80 mph on the highway. The mileage on my Cummin drops like a simonized piano if you drive much over 60 mph and the sweet spot is about 47 mph running empty.
Here is a Canadian test that reported 27 mpg city and 35 highway. That sounds more in line with what I would think to be reasonable. With a few tweaks, I think 40 mpg would be easily within reach.
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Murf, I think that CRS is rubbing off. ;O) VERY good call on your part but I think the milage is even worse than that. With the proper amount of coffee in me; I converted 10.5 l to 2.774 US gallons and 8 l to 2.1134 gallons and that came out to 19 & 25.5 mpg if the conversion table I used was correct. MUCH worse! I still can't believe a diesel that small in a vehicle that small gets that kind of mileage. Even the Ford Excursion with the PowerStroke which weights over double what the Liberty weighs and has over double the engine displacement gets over 20 mpg. Just doesn't make sense. I think something is not being computed right or Jeep has a huge problem with this vehicle. If these mileage numbers are in fact accurate; then the Liberty gas about the same mileage average as my Dodge Cummins! That's crazy.
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Ken, I don't think this model is in the price range you were considering but did you look at the Volkswagen Touareg V-10 diesel? At least in theory a diesel will last longer and is a long term ownership purchase and theoretically will last much longer than a gasoline engine vehicle. The rumor mill has it that VW may bring the 2.5 liter 5 cylinder diesel next year as an option. That should lower the price a bit and boost the mileage well above 23 mpg. At least I figured this into when I purchased my Dodge Cummins. That is still a LOT of money to spend. The other thing I considered with a diesel is that in the event of a fuel shortage there will always be diesel. The green dye road taxed diesel may be just as short as the gas but not off road red dye diesel. During hurricane Ivan, Jebb Bush authorized the use of off road red dye diesel during the aftermath of Ivan for a few months. The other option is that you can make your own out of waste vegatable oil in a pinch if worst comes to worst. I know........I sound like the gun buff guy who lives with Reeba McCintire on the movie series Trembors. ;O) ! Just something to consider.
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Is that the illegitimately "appointed" govenor who defrauded and stole the election? Or is she the gov. of Oregon that I am thinking about? I thought that happened in Washington. What do you expect from the extemist social-communist party? Diesels can be made to run pretty clean now. The VW diesels are computer controlled and you can buy software for your laptop to modify the power and output of the engine and then change it back for emision inspections.
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